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OK, Graham, so let's check we both know what we're supposed to be doing.
凯茜: 格雷姆，让我们看看我们都知道该做什么。
OK.
格雷姆: 好的!
So, for the university's open day, we have to plan a display on British life
凯茜:为了学校的开放日，我们得计划一个关于19世纪中期英国生活的展览。
and literature in the mid-19th century.
和19世纪中期的文学。
That's right.
格雷姆:没错。
But we'll have some people to help us find the materials and set it up,
但是我们会有人来帮我们找到材料并筹备它，
remember–for the moment, we just need to plan it.
记得——但是目前我们只需要计划一下。
Cathy:Good. So have you gathered who's expected to come and see the display?
凯茜:好，你们收集了哪些人要来看展览吗?
Is it for the people studying English, or students from other departments?
是给学英语的人，还是给其他系的学生?
I'm not clear about it.
我不太清楚。
Graham:Nor me.
格雷姆:我也不太清楚呢。
That was how it used to be, but it didn't attract many people, so
以前是这样子的，但没有吸引很多人，所以
this year it's going to be part of an open day, to raise the university's profile.
今年它将成为开放日的一部分，以提高大学的知名度。
It'll be publicized in the city, to encourage people to come and find out something of what goes on here.
我们将在城市中宣传它以鼓励人们来这里，了解这里发生了什么。
And it's included in the information that's sent to people who are considering applying to study here next year.
这些信息也包括在发给那些考虑明年申请来这里学习的人的信息中。
Cathy:Presumably some current students and lecturers will come?
凯茜:我猜一些现在的学生和讲师也会来吧?
Graham:I would imagine so, but we've been told to concentrate on the other categories of people.
格雷姆:我认为是这样子的，但我们被告知要关注其他类别的人。
Cathy:Right. We don't have to cover the whole range of 19th-century literature, do we?
凯西:没错。我们不需要把19世纪的所有文学都涵盖进来，对吧?
Graham:No, it's entirely up to us. I suggest just using Charles Dickens.
格雷姆: 这完全取决于我们，我建议我们选查尔斯·狄更斯。
Cathy:That's a good idea. Most people have heard of him, and have probably read some of his novels,
凯西:好主意。大多数人都听说过他，也可能读过他的书他的一些小说，
or seen films based on them, so that's a good lead-in to life in his time.
或看过的电影，因此这是一个很好的引入来介绍他生活的时代。
Graham:Exactly. And his novels show the awful conditions that most people had to live in, don't they:
格雷姆:没错。他的小说表现了大多数人不得不在恶劣的条件下生活，不是吗？
he wanted to shock people into doing something about it.
他想通过震惊人们来采取一些措施。
Cathy:Did he do any campaigning, other than writing?
凯西:除了写作，他做过什么其他活动吗?
Graham:Yes, he campaigned for education and other social reforms,
格雷姆:是的，他还做了教育和其他社会改革的宣传活动，
and gave talks, but I'm inclined to ignore that and focus on the novels.
也发表了演讲。但我倾向于忽略这一点，专注于他写的小说。
Cathy:Yes, I agree.
凯西:是的，我同意。
Cathy:OK, so now shall we think about a topic linked to each novel?
凯西:好，现在我们来考虑一下每部小说的主题吧?
Graham:Yes. I've printed out a list of Dickens's novels in the order they were published,
格雷姆:好的，我已经按出版顺序打印了一份狄更斯小说的清单，
in the hope you'd agree to focus on him!
希望你能同意聚焦在他身上!
Cathy:You're lucky I did agree! Let's have a look.
凯西:我同意，你真幸运!让我们看一看。
OK, the first was The Pickwick Papers, published in 1836.
第一个是The Pickwick Papers发表于1836年。
It was very successful when it came out, wasn't it, and was adapted for the theatre straight away.
刚推出的时候非常成功，不是吗?很快就被改编成戏剧。
Graham:There's an interesting point, though, that there's a character who keeps falling asleep,
格雷姆:不过有意思的是，有个角色一直在睡着的状态。
and that medical condition was named after the book – Pickwickian Syndrome.
这种疾病以书命名：匹克威克并发症.
Cathy:Oh, so why don't we use that as the topic, and include some quotations from the novel?
凯西:哦，那我们为什么不以此为主题，并引用一些小说中的话呢?
Graham:Right.Next is Oliver Twist. There's a lot in the novel about poverty.
格雷姆:没错。下一位是Oliver Twist。小说中有很多关于贫穷的描述。
But maybe something less obvious …
但也许不那么明显……
Cathy:Well Oliver is taught how to steal, isn't he?
凯西: Oliver被教授如何偷盗，不是吗?
We could use that to illustrate the fact that very few children went to school,
我们可以用它来说明很少有孩子上学的事实。
particularly not poor children, so they learnt in other ways.
尤其是贫穷的孩子，所以他们通过其他方式学习。
Graham:Good idea. What's next?
格雷姆:好主意，接下来是?
Cathy:Maybe Nicholas Nickleby. Actually he taught in a really cruel school, didn't he?
凯西:也许是Nicholas Nickleby。实际上他在一所很严酷的学校教书，不是吗?
Graham:That's right. But there's also the company of touring actors that Nicholas joins.
格雷姆:没错。但是还有Nicholas加入的巡回演员剧团。
We could do something on theaters and other amusements of the time.
我们可以在剧院和当时的其他娱乐场所做些事情。
We don't want only the bad things, do we?
我们不只是想要坏的东西，对吧?
Cathy:OK.
凯茜:好。
Graham:What about Martin Chuzzlewit? He goes to the USA, doesn't he?
格雷姆: Martin Chuzzlewit呢? 他去美国，是吗?
Cathy:Yes, and Dickens himself had been there a year before,
凯西:是的，狄更斯本人一年前也去过那儿，
and drew on his experience there in the novel.
并且以那段时间的经历为原型创造的小说。
Graham:I wonder, though … The main theme is selfishness,
格雷姆:不过……主题是自私，
so we could do something on social justice?
所以我们可以做点与社会正义有关的事情?
No, too general, let's keep to your idea – I think it would work well.
不，太笼统了，就照你的想法吧，我觉得会有用的。
Cathy:He wrote Bleak House next – that's my favourite of his novels. Graham:Yes, mine too.
凯西:他接着写了《Bleak House》，这是他的小说中我最喜欢的一部。格雷姆:是的,我也是。
His satire of the legal system is pretty powerful.
他对法律制度的讽刺相当有力。
Cathy:That's true, but think about Esther, the heroine.
凯西:没错，但想想女主角Esther,吧。
As a child she lives with someone she doesn't know is her aunt, who treats her very badly.
作为一个孩子，她和一个她以为不认识确是她阿姨的人住在一起，而她的阿姨对她很不好。
Then she's very happy living with her guardian, and he puts her in charge of the household.
后来和她的监护人住在一起就开心多了，他让她管理家务。
And at the end she gets married and her guardian gives her and her husband a house,
最后她结婚了，她的监护人给了她和她的丈夫一所房子，
where of course they're very happy.
他们当然很高兴。
Graham:Yes, I like that.
格雷姆:是的，我喜欢。
Cathy:What shall we take next? Little Dorrit?
凯西:接下来? Little Dorrit?
Old Mr Dorrit has been in a debtors' prison for years …
老Dorrit先生已经在债务人监狱里关了好几年了…
Graham:So was Dickens's father, wasn't he?
格雷姆:所以是狄更斯的父亲，对吗?
Cathy:That's right.
凯西:没错。
Graham:What about focusing on the part when Mr Dorrit inherits a fortune,
格雷姆:要不聚焦在Dorrit先生继承遗产，
and he starts pretending he's always been rich?
继而假装他一直很有钱那部分?
Cathy:Good idea.
凯西:好主意。
Graham:OK, so next we need to think about what materials we want to illustrate each issue.
格雷姆:好的。接下来我们需要考虑我们要用什么材料来呈现它们，
That's going to be quite hard.
这将是一个非常困难的问题。
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